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Rubrik, Cohesity, Veeam, curious if anyone has any experience with them? PoC experience to share, other thoughts?

Storage, Backup

Veeam is more focused on business continuity than anything else, so depending on your use-case, may not be a good fit for application and data management.

On Rubrik vs. Cohesity, the background of the founders and how the companies started is indicative of the products they've built. While they may seem to have feature parity on surface, Cohesity was built all in-house / ground-up. The features and experience are seamless. Rubrik focused on a particular use-case to start and then acquired Datos.io, but in my experience its hard to integrate another company/product and have a seamless solution. 

Cohesity’s founder (Mohit) was a lead on the Google File System and founded Nutanix. With that experience, Cohesity's product is architected in a way that scales 'infinitely' and for me, they win on that fundamental difference.

Rubrik also has a single point of failure with their nodes, whereas Cohesity doesn’t have that problem. Additionally if you have to do a restore in Rubrik, its painful and quite manual and again Cohesity manages a lot of this complexity for you.

Both products have a 'global search' if you do need to do a more granular restore. However in Rubrik, to locate a particular file, you need to know which VM to look in. Cohesity does a truly seamless global search.

Cohesity also has better support for immutability of backups. You can mark a backup as ‘can’t touch’. If you are one of the organizations hit by the recent waves of ransomware attacks, with Cohesity you can restore seamlessly. Rubrik’s backups are not so ‘fully immutable’ and it's also more complex within their interface.

Lastly Cohesity is less on cost overall since there is more automation in place and therefore less pro services and time is required to maintain the solution.

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Pulse User

Veeam is more focused on business continuity than anything else, so depending on your use-case, may not be a good fit for application and data management.

On Rubrik vs. Cohesity, the background of the founders and how the companies started is indicative of the products they've built. While they may seem to have feature parity on surface, Cohesity was built all in-house / ground-up. The features and experience are seamless. Rubrik focused on a particular use-case to start and then acquired Datos.io, but in my experience its hard to integrate another company/product and have a seamless solution. 

Cohesity’s founder (Mohit) was a lead on the Google File System and founded Nutanix. With that experience, Cohesity's product is architected in a way that scales 'infinitely' and for me, they win on that fundamental difference.

Rubrik also has a single point of failure with their nodes, whereas Cohesity doesn’t have that problem. Additionally if you have to do a restore in Rubrik, its painful and quite manual and again Cohesity manages a lot of this complexity for you.

Both products have a 'global search' if you do need to do a more granular restore. However in Rubrik, to locate a particular file, you need to know which VM to look in. Cohesity does a truly seamless global search.

Cohesity also has better support for immutability of backups. You can mark a backup as ‘can’t touch’. If you are one of the organizations hit by the recent waves of ransomware attacks, with Cohesity you can restore seamlessly. Rubrik’s backups are not so ‘fully immutable’ and it's also more complex within their interface.

Lastly Cohesity is less on cost overall since there is more automation in place and therefore less pro services and time is required to maintain the solution.

Pulse User

We started using Veeam Backup and Replication when we moved from VMware to Hyper-V few years ago at a client side. Since Hyper-V was new at that time (Hyper-V 2008 R2) and there were not many good backup solutions available. We tested a few well known products and they all had some issues. Some of them very complex to configure and manage, and some did not work with Hyper-V.

We then came across Veeam Backup and Replication. We did a trial of their solution and to our surprise it worked a lot better then other solutions. One thing that we liked most was that their interface is simple and easier to understand and manage. There were a few issues with Veeam also but their support was great and we worked directly with their support and developers to resolve those issues. They even extended our trial period to several months until they resolve those issues. In the end their product worked great for us. Their Deduplication feature saved on disk space and Hardware Snapshots (for storage) increased backup performance. Since then Veeam has released several versions and improved their product a lot and it is still working great for us.

Pulse User

We have used Veeam for the last 2 years. It works great for both VMware and Hyper-V servers. We are creating snap shots from 15 minutes to 8 hour increments. This tool works very well for restoring single files to entire VM's.
We also used Storagecraft shadow protect in the past, but had frequent issues with performance.

Pulse User

We are down to Rubrik and Cohesity.

Pulse User

#Rubrik it is

Pulse User

Would be curious in hearing the key criteria that factored in the decision

Pulse User

Rubrik was the solution to replace our legacy solution with a converged software platform that grows with the business. The simplified architecture of Rubrik will achieve 80% data center foot print reduction. The Rubrik solution allows us to get up and running on the new platform within days not weeks. This allows us to eliminate annual maintenance agreements which are scheduled for renewal in Q1/Q3 2019. We will also achieve approximately savings over three years from software convergence.

Our data-centers are nearly 100% virtualized, Rubrik allows for a near-zero recovery time objective by mounting production servers directly onto Rubrik without any data rehydration. Rubrik will reduce our recovery point objective from hours to minutes. Both are extremely beneficial when recovering from a disaster, failure or ransomware event.

I also worked on a pretty detailed ROI, TCO going out over 3-6 years to show the reoccurring Capex of our legacy solution.

Pulse User

We are using Veeam and extremely happy about it. It simplified the recovery time of the applications on our ships and it is so simple that our low level techs can use it without extra headaches on training. We don’t use shoreside as we have real time replication in 3 different sites.

Pulse User

Veeam here as well and happy about it also. Simple interface, straightforward planning and recovery options takes the effort off of the admin and allows for solid backup and disaster planning.

Pulse User

I LOVE Rubrik and their roadmap is solid. After lots of vendor evaluations, they were definitely most aligned with our needs since we had a combination of on prem and cloud, and there was so much cost savings with AWS due to the policies that would move EBS to S3, among other features. They were also the only ones that had SaaS solution backups on their roadmap.. do you mind sharing more about your environment and what you are looking to achieve?